tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9178844664525181555.post5975978208235861932..comments2023-06-01T07:19:25.791-07:00Comments on Cave Mouth: Further Negotiations: The Bishop & The Badly Behaved BoyCave Mouthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11462830510842947802noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9178844664525181555.post-51010517053899693262010-02-21T10:57:41.651-08:002010-02-21T10:57:41.651-08:00As a person raised Catholic, my view of the Church...As a person raised Catholic, my view of the Church runs that gamut from comfortable-safe-music-to-adore-bask-worship-the-universe to all of those patriarchal-misguided-exclusionary-female-crushing assholes!!!!! (Mary Daly being the eye opener for me)<br />Thanks for the link - I loved reading your thoughts on the matter.<br />Having returned to weekly mass (but, like you, some weekends are exceptions, this being one of them with colds all around), I sometimes also struggle with the idea that if all of these people knew what I REALLY think, they'd throw me out. <br />But my daughter is attending Jr. High ministry after having been confirmed last spring. I am in awe of Fr. Boyle and his work, Fr. Roy Bourgeois and his work - so many more I don't even know about!<br />We happen to have found a subversive community of Franciscans - monks running a retreat center, who have garnered such a following that the diocese had to let them become a "conventual church" (not a parish) to capture some of their funds! <br />This Catholic community actually says "All are welcome" and MEANS IT. Service to others is a primary mission and guides the whole institution. There are many openly gay folks in the congregation and "The Casa," as it's known, offers sacraments to all comers if they attend faith formation classes. This place feels like home, and doesn't pull any punches when criticizing the priests who preach hate and exclusion.<br /><br />Thanks again. I'm also grateful to be able to connect with you again on any level! I'll be back to read more about this metaphorical journey.<br /><br />Ran RansomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9178844664525181555.post-85045143907803734082010-02-18T06:21:33.660-08:002010-02-18T06:21:33.660-08:00Anonymous, our bookshelves are open-- though the M...Anonymous, our bookshelves are open-- though the Marquis is on a top shelf. Lovelace is ultimately unworthy of our limited shelving, so is boxed in the basement somewhere. For the wordplay alone, I am considering buying a copy of the Wickedary-- we raided the lobby couches for gas money to get to Claremont that day.<br /><br />Maethelwine, your overheated paragraph made me laugh, and that is reason enough to leave it stand.<br /><br />I am waiting for the moment when I don't feel like the odd man out. The suspicion that someone will stand and shout, "witch! heretic!" any day now as confirmation approaches is constant.<br /><br />The universe and I have made furtive peripheral eye contact, askance and backwards over my shoulder all along. I was not trying to peak in the windows; me and my god were getting along. Are you and your god getting along without a faith community?Cave Mouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11462830510842947802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9178844664525181555.post-57035368903527460142010-02-17T17:29:28.175-08:002010-02-17T17:29:28.175-08:00I was never a big fan of the Spinster, for a host ...I was never a big fan of the Spinster, for a host (should I say hostess here?) of reasons, and found little more in her word play than something akin to graphic Tourette's. Playing the shell game with your vowels and scattering fistfuls of hyphens and upper-case letters across the page always seemed like a cheap bag of tricks. Obviously, not everyone felt that way. I saw how important she was to women I cared about and mostly kept my mouth shut, in the days when anything she wrote was relevant even by proxy in my life. <br /><br />Well, I think I'll let that last paragraph stand, though I can see already how overheated and silly it is in places. You and I agreed and disagreed about a lot of things in those days, and what I always liked best about you was that you were both a robust defender of your own opinions, and didn't insist on finding a personal attack in every varying viewpoint.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing your thoughts here Sybil. You've always been a thoughtful, interesting woman and it's a real pleasure to have even this limited form of intercourse with you (sorry, Professor Daly, couldn't resist)again. You're also writing about things that have interested me virtually all my life, and it's interesting to see how you've found a viable and well-trodden path within the Church you once loathed while I, who am on the surface of things probably much more amenable to the Church, still find myself out in the cold, up on tiptoe to peer through the windows.Maethelwinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06108222002975892824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9178844664525181555.post-39962068370303626882010-02-17T14:50:12.218-08:002010-02-17T14:50:12.218-08:00Stunning!
I don't think unwinding that parag...Stunning! <br /><br />I don't think unwinding that paragraph for those without at least a passing experience of Daly's writing is possible. Even my little boys have read bits and pieces of the Wickedary; it's fun, fun, fun--and evocative--for the whole family!<br /><br />If only for their semantic and logic applications, Daly's ability to look at words and concepts, with accepted, static definitions, and breathe new and unique life into them; to kindle, within the reader, alternative, richer understandings, is a treasure. But I suppose that would be a no-no on the reading list of good Catholic girls? Sigh.<br /><br />The editing of your letter. Ouch! <br /><br />Balancing two seemingly divergent perspectives, to unite their essential spirituality, is no small task.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com